Posts Tagged ‘Intelligent Design’


Oh goodness, I love the irony here. I just love it.

I’m not going to be taking this as an opportunity to bash the arguments of creationists cdesign proponentists ID proponents, but just to remark at how ironic and hypocritical this whole event has been, and how lamentable it is that I wasn’t able to get to the Minnesota American Atheists convention.

First, the makers of Expelled! obtain footage from Richard Dawkins through highly questionable means.

For months, the makers of Expelled! only let people who won’t write negative reviews to see their screenings.

Then, when they finally allow for a public screening, PZ Myers brings his family along. PZ gets kicked out, Richard Dawkins gets in, and asks a question during the Q&A session, with testimony from a theist who was obviously confused about what was actually going on.

Oh, what irony! Reading all this news went wonderfully with the cup of tea I had just made.

But the most astonishing meaningless coincidence of it all…

The night before I had a dream about Ben Stein!

If you’re curious, it involved him dressed in a leotard, panty hose, and high heels and with a very gargantuan ass. Alright, that sounds very wrong…

Of course, that’s just a meaningless coincidence. But, I don’t know which situation would leave Ben Stein more embarrassed. The panty hose, or being exposed as the hypocrite that he is.

I’m going to call this whole laughable ordeal an…


Again. Evidence.

Today I received the following comment on my last entry:

“When I was looking at the trailer, the question that struck me is, “How smart do you have to be to design a universe?” Is it possible that someone or something is even smarter. (Not to be confused with America’s most smartest model.)

The theory that everything was design doesn’t tell us how or why,and really not who. Without those answers, I’m not sure what the value of theory is. Creationism tries to answers those questions but it’s really all on faith. In fact, it all may simply be made up by relatively primative people.

Science on the other hand often acts like a religion and resists challenges to a lot of basic doctorine. Today, it tends to go where the research money is. Try discussing global warming sometime. It’s treated as hierarchy if you don’t tow the party line. Science by consensus is not science. How many times has the lone dissenter been right?”

To Steve:

The first part of that was appreciated. However, I’d like to talk a bit about why science is not a religion.

There are too many lone dissenters in history to count exactly how many time they’ve been wrong or right. You can come up with dozens of examples of when the general consensus was wrong and the lone dissenter was right, and you can come up with dozens of examples when the general consensus was correct, and the lone dissenter is still considered a nut case. Galileo can be considered a lone dissenter, and so can Darwin… as can people who believe in aliens. The difference between them, and revolutionary scientists like Galileo is… EVIDENCE!

I’d also like to point out that dissenters whose ideas are accepted today were dissenters in a time when the scientific method was not what it is now. Back then, and in Creationism today, Bible quotes were used as evidence. The Great Flood was considered an actual historic event… until contradictory evidence was brought up.

That’s the difference between science and religion.Science Vs. Religion

Intelligent Dark Age Ideas

I was looking forward to Darwin Day this 2008… Until… Until I visited the website for a documentary coming out on Darwin Day called Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed.

In the intro, the slogan “Big Science has expelled smart new ideas from the classroom” fades in and out of my screen.

You might have guessed it… It’s a documentary about “Intelligent Design.” In the slogan, Intelligent Design = Creationism a smart new idea. It’s the “theory” that God an “Intelligent Designer” put all life on the planet in its present form. Doesn’t sound like Creationism to me…

Anyway… it’s the part where they call Intelligent Design a “smart new idea” that bothers me. Basically, Intelligent Design’s argument is that things in nature are irreducibly complex and they can not imagine how it could possibly have evolved through natural processes. So, instead of trying to find evidence of how things like the flagellum might have evolved, they gave up, and said that God an Intelligent Designer did it. What sets this apart from Creationism is that they don’t jump the gun and say that the Intelligent Designer was God. In fact, it could have been as equally likely that it was an alien!

And how could an alien complex enough to design life have come about?

I always love it when they say that since the universe exists, it had to have a causal agent, but even though God exists, “God just is”… That’s seriously what they say. Oh, but ID isn’t about God! Bad example.

But despite the fundamental problems with it…

The main argument of the movie is that “Big Science” is suppressing Intelligent Design because it challenges Evolution. While it is true that scientists are adamently opposed to teaching ID in the schools, there’s a good reason for it.

Scientific theories require evidence.

What has Evolution got?

Fossil records. I even had the pleasure of walking through a pretty damn complete fossil record when I walked through an exhibit at the Denver Museum of Nature and Science today.

What evidence does ID have?

They like to point to things like the bacterial flagellum, a mechanism bacteria use to propel themselves, saying that it’s so complex that take any part away and it won’t work… Well… they debunked that… Take a few of the proteins that allow the rotary movement in the flagellum, and you get the exact mechanism other species of bacteria use to inject toxins into cells. With enough evidence, irreducible complexity fails. And what evidence do they have that the Intelligent Designer actually exists?

ID is not accepted in the scientific community because… here’s the shocker… it’s not scientific!

But look. The last time science worked the way ID works was in the Dark Ages. Back then, all the gaps in knowledge were explained by “God did it, God did it, God did it.” Why were people dying from the Black Death? Because witches were doing it of course! As a result, hundreds of cats were slaughtered, and as a result of Dark Age science, the only means of controlling the spread of the plague was eliminated. Then, something wonderful happened, and science no longer had to go to supernatural explanations to explain phenomena. Of course if you fill in all the gaps with “God did it, God did it, God did it” you’re going to make yourself look like an idiot and your reputation as a scientist won’t be all that great. Would you hire a doctor who thought disease was caused by demons?

Intelligent Design is not smart. It’s not new. It’s Dark Age thinking with a new name.

But, I’m going to go see the movie anyway. But here’s the thing, I’m going to buy a ticket for another movie to get in, and go to another theater so that I see it and the bastards don’t get my money. I can think of better ways to spend my Darwin Day… but to debunk, you must know. I’ll post my review so remember to check back…