May 11, 2008

Purposefully left title-less.

Alright, alright… I wasn’t thinking at all when I wrote a post and titled it Creationists Are Pure Evil.” I have since renamed it to My Thoughts on Creationism. Why? One too many people, this time, George Paul Davis III, have missed the point of the post because of the title. Please read the post (and not by title only) before reading the rest so that this all makes more sense.

Angry? No. Amused? A little. However, it’s not the creationists who are amusing — it’s people who get so angry over this stuff. I think it’s funny because the anger seems baseless and programmed rather than genuine.

The first thing a person should do upon feeling “angry” about this is to ask him/herself why they feel that way.

Are you angry because the children do not get to choose what they are taught in their system of education? If that is the case, then I return that question back to you. Do your children choose the curriculum they are given in their own system of education? I was never asked about the curriculum given to me as a child.

I was given several doses of misinformation during my education. In public school, I was taught that Christopher Columbus discovered America as he was trying to prove that the Earth was round. The idea that Christopher Columbus would have had to prove the shape of the Earth to anyone in his time is, of course, nothing more than romantic fancy presented to children in elementary school as a fact (at least, it was taught as a fact in my day — Second Grade/1986). I was also given a set story about things like the Revolutionary War only to grow up and discover that different countries often have very different histories that are used to explain single events (i.e., the British explanation of the Revolutionary War and the American “victory” is quite different). Few people are “angry” over these bits of misinformation, so why is misinformation about dinosaurs so aggravating?

My guess, then, would be that people are not actually angry about the fact that these children do not get to choose whether or not they are given facts as education. Other than that, I don’t really see what exists in this situation that would conjure “anger.”

The worst that will happen to these kids is that they will grow up having been given false information about the origin of species. They’ll grow up thinking that the Earth is 6,000 years old, that men rode dinosaurs, and that lions are meant to eat grass. Big deal. Since when is being wrong such a tragedy? Who here has never lost an argument? These kids will face bigger issues as they grow up – this crap will be the least of their worries.

Even in making that statement, I am overlooking not only my personal experiences with this subject matter, but the confession of the museum scientist in the clip. He was raised to think as a Creationist, yet he does not. I was similarly raised, and I don’t follow the assumptions made by “Creation Science,” either. These kids will have the ability to choose what they believe when they’re older and are exposed to more materials.

Why, then, would this situation create so much “anger?” Religion. Religion has become a hot-topic for people. There is a kind of Retro-Inquisition going on, right now. Religion makes certain people angry – even when they aren’t directly affected by it.

It’s true that I don’t really expect much from the human animal and think that most of these kids will not become enlightened by science as they mature into adults. Rather, I think they will simply adhere to the easiest option – to stick to what one already “knows.”

Easy options are amongst the human being’s favorite type. It’s easy to accept information without proper contemplation, so people do it. For instance, your anger over this particular subject suggests that you blame Creation, an abstract concept created by HUMANS, for certain evils in the world. That’s just naïve.

Religion, and Creation through it, is just a story. It isn’t evil, it isn’t good, it isn’t anything without a human being’s manipulation to create, change or control it. In other words, “religion doesn’t kill people — people do.” You can’t be angry that these children are being given Creation as education without being angry at Creation as a concept. It doesn’t make sense to be angry at abstract concepts, but it does make sense to be angry at people who use them to do evil. What evil is being done here? Some kids are being made wrong. Is that really evil? They won’t grow up to be archeologists. It’s hard to find work as an archeologist, anyway. Thinking that the Flintstones is a documentary won’t prevent these kids from accomplishing great things. You can think that the Grand Canyon was made in a weekend and still be a successful and talented medical doctor – I’ve seen it.

If you are angry at Creation and Religion – or so it seems — because they can potentially cause evil, then you must also be angry at the concept of home-schooling for making this kind of an education possible. Further, you should be angry at the concept that individuals are allowed to make decisions for their own children, because it enables concepts like home-schooling which in-turn enables insane curriculums wherein children are taught Creation as a fact. If you are angry at these concepts then you must also be angry at an innumerable number of abstract concepts in order to make any logical sense as a human being.

Religion is not evil, it’s just silly. People are evil. Teaching kids that snakes can talk is not evil. A person who uses faith in Religion to manipulate children into sexual situations is evil. A person who uses faith in Religion to manipulate people into committing mass murder/suicide is evil. A person who uses faith in Religion to manipulate people into giving him/her free money is just a jerk. A person who uses faith in Religion to manipulate movies stars into believing that they are possessed by alien ghosts so they will give him/her lots of free money, I must begrudgingly admit, is kind of talented.

You’re not angry. You’re bored.

Thanks

Ah… “The first thing a person should do upon feeling “angry” about this is to ask him/herself why they feel that way.” For those of you that read the post, you will notice that the entire post was explaining why I felt angry.

No, the point of the post was not that I think that creationism/creationists are evil. I get annoyed with because it distorts the truth. For those of you who read it by title only, I will tell you what the content of the post actually was.

I talked about how much I love science. I talked about how passionate I am about what is true. That is why it broke my heart so much to see it distorted. That is why it made me so very upset. I’m sorry that you can’t understand that I’m not bored, but that I’m passionate.

Even if you can not understand that passion, do you believe that people have a right to know the truth? Do we not despise totalitarian governments that control information, thus brain-washing the people? Why doesn’t this apply to children who’s parents control the information they are fed?

But, yes. A lot of fault falls upon me because I wasn’t thinking when I chose the post title. If I learned anything from The Selfish Gene it was that people pay little attention to content and more to titles. Is this because of laziness, or genuine mistakes? I can understand how titles will make people pre-disposed to read things that aren’t really there. Perhaps it is my fault that people did not understand the post if they actually did read it.

Asshat

April 5, 2008

I love the idea of the new Asshats Feature on Deep Thoughts. It’s kind of like Ignunt Fool of the Week except it’s sort of limited to blogs. But no worries… there’s an unlimited supply of ignunt fools in the blogging world too.

This week’s asshat is… Atheism Speical. Any One May Respond. You Are Welcome.

Well, I feel welcomed… that is… I felt welcomed until I started scrolling down. So, here’s my response to this blog in no particular order, just responding to what I felt like responding to. I think I might have responded to everything, but I might not have…

One post titled “The Only Hope of An Atheist” says…

All that an atheist lives for is this wicked world.

Don’t be too surprised. The majority of the posts on that blog are that short… and that offensive to me as an Atheist.

Sure, the world really pisses me off sometimes. In this case, I’m pissed off with the world because this really is the common stereotype of an Atheist. Aside from fundies, creationists, and ignunt people in general, the world is pretty cool.

I have some really great friends, I’ve had some really great experiences, every other Sunday I get to go to a museum to share science with people, I have an optical telescope named Carl Sagan and a backyard radio telescope named Richard Dawkins that I get to explore the universe with, there are books to read, places to go… I just love the world, and the fact that I don’t believe I’m going to an afterlife doesn’t diminish its glory.

By the way, how can you be sure that you’re really going to the real afterlife? What if you find yourself in Muslim Hell, or Scientologist Hell, or Mormon Hell. Better yet, what if the Buddhists are right and you get reincarnated as an Atheist?

By the way, if you end up in any of the above Hells with me, I’ll be trying to organize a poker night and you’d be more than welcome to join us.

An At[h]eist Does Not Know Why He [or She] Is Here

No atheist knows why they are here on earth. They have no purpose in life.

I do know why I’m here… actually. The reason is my parents met and… some other stuff happened that we’re not going to get into. No, I don’t believe in any sort of a transcendental purpose or meaning in life… but I’ve taken it upon myself to create my own purpose. My purpose is to bring some light into the world before my proverbial candle extinguishes forever, and to enjoy the light while it lasts. I suppose running this blog kind of goes with that goal…

Grave Is The End Of An Atheist

Since grave is the end of an atheist he can only look for that for a future.

What is it with theists and poor grammar? Well… OK… I’d make a really terrible grammar-Nazi myself.

Tomorrow, I’m looking forward to still being alive and possibly going to the museum again. In three years, I look forward to leaving high school and possibly having my Associate of Science degree completed. Then, I will continue my studying until I’m educated enough to be a fancy-pants scientist. I hope to have a family sometime when I have money to support it and to raise my kids to be happy little buggers who think for themselves.

An Atheist Has No Norms To Live By

Atheists not only do not know why they are alive, but also they do not know how to live as they do not have any norms to live by. So each one decides for himself/herself how to live! (If you are an atheist it will be very refreshing to read Ps.14 in the Bible. Read also my exchanges with an atheist guru reproduced in the blog here.)

Um… yeah. I do decide how to live. Your book was written by… well… other men (unless God really does support slavery, stoning people for their sexual orientation, killing people for saying his name out loud) and if you’re going to let other humans tell you how to live your life then… what’s the point? I like the way I’ve decided to live my life.

An Atheist Has No Shelter

An atheist takes shelter in his [or her] own shadow!

This one was a bit confusing to me. Physically speaking, I do have a house. Obviously, there’s some sort of… proverbial meaning to shelter in this context so I turned to the Oxford English Dictionary for help.

Under the figurative usages it provided this quote from John Smith.

The shadow of your most noble vertues..under which I hope to have shelter, against all stormes that dare threaten.

Despite the awesome power of Google, I was unable to find the context in which these words were spoken. I guess it’s a bit of a dead end…

If shelter is supposed to be taken to mean comfort from the “wicked world” then… I don’t need God as a shelter. I have communities of friends who help me feel better about the ignunt fools who piss me off.

If shadow is supposed to mean my accomplishments, then I think that I’ve accomplished a lot so far… for being 15 that is… I expect to accomplish quite a bit more in the decades I’ve got left.

Atheists Are So Confident

Atheists are so confident that every thing about man is over with death! How could any one be so confident about what is to happen in the future?

Easy… People die every day, unfortunately. Not one of them has come back from the dead or demonstrated continued existence after their death. I wish that I weren’t finite, but I’ve accepted it and decided to make the most of my finiteness.

Atheist Has No Answer

An atheist has no answer to the riddles of life. He [or she] does not have an answer to the problem of evil.

Figurative language is great, but sometimes it doesn’t make a lot of sense. Any specific riddles of life you want answered? One of the greatest of us was brilliant enough to come up with the answer to all of them… 42.

Just kidding.

OK, fine. Life is really confusing and irksome sometimes. Neither the Bible, Koran, Book of Mormon, or Dianetics really helped out. If they really were full of wisdom I’d think things would make more sense even if I didn’t have to believe in it.

I present to you a quote from Epicurus. This was the logic proof that I came up with a version of in pre-school that originally made me an Atheist.

Is God willing to prevent evil but not able?

Then he is impotent.

IS God able to prevent evil but not willing?

Then he is malevolent.

Is God both able to prevent evil and willing?

Then whence cometh evil?

Is God both unable to prevent evil and unwilling?

Then why call him God?

Is that the problem of evil that you’re talking about? In that case, it’s your problem to provide an answer for.

Atheists Are No Different

No one has ever lived upto his/her own conscience. Atheists are no different!

Oh. My. God. You actually acknowledged the existence of female Atheists. I exist! Finally!

No… I don’t suppose anybody has ever been able to be all that they can be. But, that has nothing to do with what is true. The way I see it, since I know I only have a finite existence, I’m going to make the most of it. If I thought I’d have an eternity in heaven to chillax… well, that would be different.

To Err Is Human

There is no difference. Whether we are theists or atheists, we have all done wrong at some time or the other. No one could forget that some of our mistakes have grave consequences!

This is no news to me. I’d like to point out that if you’re wondering how Atheists get their morals, it’s because we know that our actions have consequences.

Atheism Is Ideal

Atheism is ideal if one could be absolutely sure that there is no God. But who could be absolutely sure? On what grounds?

You got me! I’m agnostic on a technicality. That technicality being that you can’t disprove the deist god. Text-based gods who interfere in the world and make miracles and jazz are easy to disprove. Find a contradiction in the text. You can find many just by going through the book, or better yet, referring to the Skeptic’s Annotated Bible.

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/index.htm

Also, there’s not proof of God. You probably don’t believe in dancing green unicorns on Altair 4. Why? On what grounds? Have you been to Altair 4?

An Atheist Does Not Know

An atheist does not know where he came from. Therefore he just has to assume that he came from monkey.

Wrong. I shared a common ancestor with a monkey, but I’m closer to Homo erectus. Do you have a problem with evolution? I don’t. To think that all this diversity and awesomeness came about through something as simple as natural selection is really amazing.

Atheists Depend Upon Themselves

No man ever had a choice to be born! No one ever knows when death will strike(unless, ofcourse, one is planning for a suicide)! Yet our atheist friends depend on themselves for the life in-between!!!

I depend upon myself, yes, but I also have fellow human beings to help me out when life is being irksome. I don’t know when death will strike… Hell, I might not finish this blog post, but I most likely will post it. I figure I’ll have high blood pressure as it runs in my family.

An Atheist Is Proud

An atheist is very proud when he says that he actually emerged from a MONKEY! Could we possibly think that some among them(thank God, not all!) behave like brutes because of their origin?

Again, no. We didn’t come from monkeys. We shared a common ancestor with a monkey. I am not a monkey. You are not a monkey. We’re related, though. I have yet to see a human (Atheist or otherwise) who behaves like a monkey, and just because our species had a lowly origin doesn’t mean that I think I should act like my origin.

Can Life Emerge From Matter?

Atheists say that life emerged from matter. Is at all possible?

DNA certainly did. Once you have a self-replicating molecule, it is automatically going to be subjected to natural selection. DNA molecules that are better at replicating themselves become more numerous. Those that are good at building cells that are better at surviving become more numerous. If DNA can build a multi-cellular life form it will survive better. Billions of year later, here we are. I know, that was an over-simplified version. I can recommend some literature on evolution to you if you’re interested.

Atheists Are Wise In Their Own Eyes

But the Bible calls them fools (Ps.14:1). Please read in the blog here my email exchanges with an atheist guru who claims to have a best-seller on the subject.

As that exchange didn’t involve me, I haven’t got much to say about it. I don’t really care if the Bible calls me a fool. It’s just another book. A Nazi could write a book that says that I’m inferior because I’m half Chinese.
Granted, I do Ignunt Fool of the Week on here, but I always provide reasons for why they’re fools. If somebody believes something silly, there’s evidence that it’s a silly belief. Do you want to tell me why I’m a fool?

What Do You Think?

If someone has to say, “there is no piece of magnet anywhere in this room” that person must know whatever is in that room. Is in’t it?

If that is so, how could any one possibly say that there is no god in the universe without knowing everything that is in the universe? Is it possible at all? So what Ps.14:1 says must be true! What do you think?

Sure, any one could say, “I don’t know if there is a God or not”. One could also say, “I do not believe in God” or even say, “I do not have God in my life”. I think one need not verbalize such things as life itself speaks clearly. Tell us what you think

I don’t believe in dancing unicorns on Altair 4. I also don’t believe in the deist god. If Yahweh existed, then presumably Yahweh would not only have created us but would also be interfering with our lives, doing miracles, etc. Again, I’m agnostic on the technicality that you can’t disprove the deist god who wouldn’t be worth believing in anyway.
By the way, how do you know that Buddha, Ba’al, Apophis, Ra, and the Flying Spaghetti Monster don’t exist if you don’t know the entire universe?
Are You An Atheist?
If you are an atheist you need not tell it out as your life speaks louder.
I needn’t? Meh…

On Dawkinswatch (Again)

March 7, 2008

I feel bad about not responding to this sooner, so I’m devoting a blog entry to it.

From Dawkinswatch:

“I put up a prove me wrong thread a few days back here and I have received a youtube response from Splendid Elles saying that she did not see any results.I went to South West China and they asked God to come and they got drunk in the Holy Spirit.

I think Splendid Elles attitude needs to be fixed first then she can have better results plus these Chinese Christians are risking their dear lives because the Atheists calling themselves Communists, will not have anyone choosing to believe the Truth.

Splendid Elles I said that Sam Harris was a New Ager darling, not Dawkings who is just a facilitator of the New Age by being a fellow horseman with Harris. They really need to sit down and decide whether they are materialists, mystics or both.

Splendid one, surely you know that Communists want to destroy all religions? Well, I do not see why if Dawkin is against all religions, he cannot be a Communist or at least a closet sympathiser with the atheist World Revolutionists? At least they share a common hatred for Jesus, Church and all Religion.”

So… I left the following comment.

“I should Google myself more often so I know when you people say these things. Here’s my (late) response.

First off, I thought that a bad attitude would be added incentive for Jesus/God/Holy Spirit to come to me and prove me wrong. If you really want me to try again and be all mannerly, I’ll do it, but I’m not recording another video. I’ll tell you the results.

Moving on…

Um… Being half Chinese, I have relatives in China… therefore I go to China rather often.

China is a communist country… in name only. There’s quite a lot of capitalism going on there now, which is part of the reason why their economy is surpassing us. Last time I went there, I saw several Bibles (CNN claimed the sale of the Bible was banned in China) in the government-run Xin Hua book store, several well-above-ground churches (in fact, my mum’s old middle school had been demolished many years ago so that they could build a church), etc.

So no, Christians really aren’t all that oppressed there (though the Chinese government is still oppressive about other things, but it’s not as bad as it was during the Cultural Revolution)… However, it is true that Chairman Mao did not think too highly of religion. I disapprove of forcing beliefs or forcing people not to believe, and I am a supporter of freedom of religion (if we didn’t have freedom of religion, I wouldn’t have justified freedom from religion).

Though it is a fact that Marxists did not think highly of religion, it’s still a big leap between Richard Dawkins not thinking highly of religion and being a Chinese communist. Just because two people agree on one thing, doesn’t mean they agree on everything. That’s what we call a logical fallacy.

I did not say that you said that Dawkins was a New Ager (did I?). I can’t check the video right now, but I think that you said that he was part of some New Age invasion, yes? No? I could be wrong…”

By the way, if any of my three regular viewers see any of this stuff in the future, a notification would be appreciated so that I can respond to it. Thanks in advance.

I Ask Jesus to Come to Me

February 19, 2008

“Please Prove Me Wrong” says “Dawkinswatch“.

So far, Dawkinswatch has been demonstrating ignorance of evolution, and claiming that Richard Dawkins is a communist (I don’t know if he ever backed up this claim) and a closeted New Ager.

I reckon that most of these claims don’t really need refutation, but the invitation to ask God to come to me was tempting. I don’t have loads of friends, and I do imagine it would be very comforting. Most importantly, I wouldn’t mind being immortal and having eternal life.

So…

And I didn’t achieve squat. Not a voice, not a feeling of love, not even a presence. Maybe I’m just not as likely to have the psychological conditions for a revelation? Perhaps I’m not sleep deprived enough?

Doubt that Dawkinswatch will be satisfied…

And sorry if the Tchaikovsky wasn’t loud enough to hear…

No, it’s not. A few comments have been blocked by it just because they contained links, which really is such a shame because if I start getting real spam and don’t have the time to sort through it all, a lot of lovely comments will be lost forever to cyberspace oblivion. Sorry if this happens to you.

Billy struck again recently, and got caught in the spam filter.

“Hi you’re some nice people out there, you really need to come to Jesus soon, I’m sure you know how to, first repent, you certainly know you have done wrong.
Since when have you been afraid of blood, don’t you watch tv.
You say you do not believe in God, well I mean Jesus, the only true God.
The Bible says only a fool says there is no God, so you do not have any excuse
“Jesus said, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent ye, and believe the gospel. St. Mark 1:15”.

Apparently it considers trying to convert people over the internet spam… maybe Billy can take a hint? Alright. Yeah. Fine. I did approve it so that would make me a hypocrite for saying that. You’re free to try to convert me whenever you want, s’long as you use arguments of a bit more substance, eh?

As Thrawn would say, “that argument is more circular than a 12-dimensional sphere.”

Er… At least something along the lines of that. Let’s take this comment apart bit by bit, shall we?

“Hi you’re some nice people out there…”

Started out great.

“… you really need to come to Jesus soon..”

Wait… I thought that I was supposed to build weapons of war and tell myself that I am strong so that he could slaughter me… unless by Lord you actually meant Yahweh. I’ll jump ahead for a second here…

You say you do not believe in God, well I mean Jesus, the only true God.”

So which God exactly do you mean? I thought that Christianity was a monotheistic religion… Either way, if Jesus wants me to come to Israel so that he can slaughter me, no thanks. I’m not suicidal, and I enjoy life and chocolate, and cookies, and rainbows, and stuff. Can’t enjoy those things once you’ve been slaughtered.

Back to where we were…

I’m sure you know how to, first repent, you certainly know you have done wrong.”

Maybe by your standards, but I prefer to do things that are moral because they are moral, not because they’re in the Bible. For some reason, it just doesn’t seem right to stone people for having gay sex, or for blasphemy (I have a bit of bias in that regard, being a blasphemer), and I could go on, but I won’t. Let’s see… is there anything besides being a non-believer that I have done wrong?

Hm… I don’t think I’ve killed anybody. I might’ve lied to my parents about grades a few times… But I’ve never stolen, or coveted my neighbor’s wife, ass, ox, etc. Ok, yeah… I’ve said God damn it a few times…

But short of going down the entire ten commandments and everything in the Bible, have I done anything that by today’s moral standards is really all that terrible? Nothing that I can recall.

Since when have you been afraid of blood, don’t you watch tv”

Hell yes, I watch TV. No, I’m not afraid of blood. I’m not obsessed with spilling other people’s blood, though. I live a calm, non-violent life. I like to try to be moral. However, if you tried to kill me, I would defend myself… I don’t know how… but I would. I’d like to try to avoid that, though, so just don’t think about it.

You say you do not believe in God, well I mean Jesus, the only true God.
The Bible says only a fool says there is no God, so you do not have any excuse
“Jesus said, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent ye, and believe the gospel. St. Mark 1:15”.”

A book called me a fool. I am so offended!

Here’s where the circularity comes in. You are operating under the assumption that since the Bible says it’s telling the truth, it’s telling the truth about telling the truth. I’m also surprised by your assumption that us Atheists would assume that the Bible is telling the truth, as well. If you’re going to convert a non-believer, you’re probably going to want… I don’t know… actual evidence?

I know y’all think that we’re just people who believe in God but deny it because we hate him (look, if God wants to come to my place for tea sometime, I’ d be happy to) but God is just not part of my reality. I don’t believe in God, I believe in the natural order of things. Cause and effect, with causes that aren’t necessarily God. I think that science can explain the occurrences (didn’t know that had two R’s in it) of the world quite nicely, and even if there are gaps, it’s highly illogical to assume that God just did it. I’ve never had a good reason to believe in God that didn’t involve fallacies and circularity.

Anyway, have a nice day Billy, and good look getting the Book of Billy stuck in after Revelation…

So, all I can do is respond to the occasional comment.

“If you had bothered to read the entire book, The Hundred Year Lie,
and not just the Introduction, you would not have drawn such
strange and outlandish misrepresentations of the book as you
did in this blog entry.”

You’re quite right. I did not read the whole book… yet. I’d like to think that I didn’t deny that. And you’re right. I did assume that the Introduction contained the thesis of the book. As you may recall, what got me reading the Introduction of the book anyway was the comments I had heard about it from my mum’s office mate, so that may have biased my inferences of what the author was saying.

“To make such statements as “This guy seems to think that modern science should be thrown out the window” …and…”he begins by blaming prescription
drugs on weight gain and tumors” (among at least a dozen examples I could cite)”

Well I was genuinely curious about the connection between prescription drugs and tumors. However, I would like to point out that I was not arguing against his claims about potentially harmful chemicals being around us. The main point of my post was that while he was talking about going to see chiropractors to get your kidneys realigned, I think we should improve science in the areas that appear to be causing harm, if they are causing harm. I didn’t argue against that part because, like you said, I didn’t read the whole book and, therefore, could not have seen whatever evidence was to be presented. However, I can point to evidence for many alternative medicine cures that says that they don’t work. Ooh… I hope it doesn’t seem like I’ve generalized too much there (my over-generalizing would appear to have caused this vicious response). Of course I don’t think that all alternative medicine doesn’t work. But if you’re going to point to a problem that appears to be caused by lack of scientific testing and you recommend that we solve it by using stuff that has been tested even less… Get it now maybe?

“… calls into question your sense of fairness and discernment.”

Wait… did I just check the approval box on this comment?

Seriously, I didn’t. I have a no censorship policy on this blog so I’ll approve it, no matter how insane it sounds, as long as the person actually has a point to make (in other words, if you’re trying to sell something, go away. If you want to argue with me, I’m perfectly fine with that. I’m also perfectly fine with people just dropping by and telling me how splendid I am.)

So, today, for the first time, I noticed that I had a spam filter, and that it had caught one thing, that I suppose was kind of spam, but the guy seems to have a point to make.

“The Lord said,
“The Lord has given a command to the enemies of the cross, wake up ye mighty men of war, prepare yourselves, come to the place where I shall slaughter you. Make weapons of war in your factories, say to yourselves that you are strong, assemble yourselves against my people, and the people of Israel.

I will judge you all as you surround Israel, your blood will overflow the land because your wickedness is great.”
“I will judge you in the valley of Decision, these are the end times spoken of by the prophet Joel 3 v 9-21. From Israel my voice shall be heard from the city of Jerusalem, it will be a time when the heaven and the earth will shake with a mighty shaking.

For war shall be in the sky and in the earth, the Christians will put their trust in Christ for they know that He is their hope and salvation, and Christ Jesus is the strength of the children of Israel.

By these things the world will know that I am the Lord Jesus Christ your God, who dwells in Zion my Holy mountain. “The people of Jerusalem will then be Holy. The wicked shall not be found in that land anymore. A time of great joy, and peace and prosperity will flow like a mighty river over all Israel, coming from the house of the Lord, and filling every valley.”

“The nations that have raised their hands against my people of Judah, and have shed their innocent blood, shall be made a desolate wilderness. My people will dwell in the city of Jerusalem, from generation to generation, for I will forgive them and cleanse them, for the Lord Jesus Christ dwelleth in Zion.” Thus saith the Lord.

This prophecy came to me in the morning of the third of December 07, Billy.”

Well, I’m happy that God has chosen you to be his prophet, Billy, and that you have found a means of passing on His word using the Internet. Perhaps you should contact somebody about having the Book of Billy put in the Bible… We’ll fit you in just after Revelation because this prophecy is related.

Ok. I realize that people like me are often called “militant” Atheists… but the last I checked I didn’t make any posts/comments telling people to go build weapons and prepare for a coming war on all theists with rivers of blood flowing and yadda yadda yadda… I actually hoped that people who wanted to actually stone people like me didn’t exist (which really was quite irrational to believe now that I think about it.) I’ve never actually seen one up until now and I can only assume that more will show up at my doorstep.

Anyway, the point is, I’d like to point out the contrast between me, a “militant” Atheist, and this guy.

Am I supposed to take this as a death threat?

And good luck starting your holy war, Billy. I have no intention of helping you start it. I’m content to have intellectual debates. Evidence is my ammunition, but I don’t actually want to gouge any eyes out… I hope you stop getting megalomaniacal delusions of grandeur at the thought of killing me and watching my blood flow through the streets of Israel and yadda yadda yadda.

Until then, enjoy your visions, but please stop searching for people and telling them your fantasies of shedding their blood. It’s not nice, and it really doesn’t help your cause any.